Obama’s speech: The text, the audio, the video
By Ami Eden on Jun 4, 2008 in AIPAC policy conference, Barack Obama, Featured, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Presidential Race |

Here’s the complete audio of Obama’s speech to AIPAC today:
Video and text after the jump.
And here’s the prepared text (please note, this is not an actual transcript):
Obama remarks at AIPAC (AS PREPARED for delivery)
Remarks at AIPAC Policy Conference
Senator Barack Obama
June 4, 2008
It’s great to see so many friends from across the country. I want to congratulate Howard Friedman, David Victor and Howard Kohr on a successful conference, and on the completion of a new headquarters just a few blocks away.
Before I begin, I want to say that I know some provocative emails have been circulating throughout Jewish communities across the country. A few of you may have gotten them. They’re filled with tall tales and dire warnings about a certain candidate for President. And all I want to say is - let me know if you see this guy named Barack Obama, because he sounds pretty frightening.
But if anyone has been confused by these emails, I want you to know that today I’ll be speaking from my heart, and as a true friend of Israel. And I know that when I visit with AIPAC, I am among friends. Good friends. Friends who share my strong commitment to make sure that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable today, tomorrow, and forever.
One of the many things that I admire about AIPAC is that you fight for this common cause from the bottom up. The lifeblood of AIPAC is here in this room - grassroots activists of all ages, from all parts of the country, who come to Washington year after year to make your voices heard. Nothing reflects the face of AIPAC more than the 1,200 students who have travelled here to make it clear to the world that the bond between Israel and the United States is rooted in more than our shared national interests - it’s rooted in the shared values and shared stories of our people. And as President, I will work with you to ensure that it this bond strengthened.
I first became familiar with the story of Israel when I was eleven years old. I learned of the long journey and steady determination of the Jewish people to preserve their identity through faith, family and culture. Year after year, century after century, Jews carried on their traditions, and their dream of a homeland, in the face of impossible odds.
The story made a powerful impression on me. I had grown up without a sense of roots. My father was black, he was from Kenya, and he left us when I was two. My mother was white, she was from Kansas, and I’d moved with her to Indonesia and then back to Hawaii. In many ways, I didn’t know where I came from. So I was drawn to the belief that you could sustain a spiritual, emotional and cultural identity. And I deeply understood the Zionist idea - that there is always a homeland at the center of our story.
I also learned about the horror of the Holocaust, and the terrible urgency it brought to the journey home to Israel. For much of my childhood, I lived with my grandparents. My grandfather had served in World War II, and so had my great uncle. He was a Kansas boy, who probably never expected to see Europe - let alone the horrors that awaited him there. And for months after he came home from Germany, he remained in a state of shock, alone with the painful memories that wouldn’t leave his head.
You see, my great uncle had been a part of the 89th Infantry Division - the first Americans to reach a Nazi concentration camp. They liberated Ohrdruf, part of Buchenwald, on an April day in 1945. The horrors of that camp go beyond our capacity to imagine. Tens of thousands died of hunger, torture, disease, or plain murder - part of the Nazi killing machine that killed 6 million people.
When the Americans marched in, they discovered huge piles of dead bodies and starving survivors. General Eisenhower ordered Germans from the nearby town to tour the camp, so they could see what was being done in their name. He ordered American troops to tour the camp, so they could see the evil they were fighting against. He invited Congressmen and journalists to bear witness. And he ordered that photographs and films be made. Explaining his actions, Eisenhower said that he wanted to produce, “first-hand evidence of these things, if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to propaganda.”
I saw some of those very images at Yad Vashem, and they never leave you. And those images just hint at the stories that survivors of the Shoah carried with them. Like Eisenhower, each of us bears witness to anyone and everyone who would deny these unspeakable crimes, or ever speak of repeating them. We must mean what we say when we speak the words: “never again.”
It was just a few years after the liberation of the camps that David Ben-Gurion declared the founding of the Jewish State of Israel. We know that the establishment of Israel was just and necessary, rooted in centuries of struggle, and decades of patient work. But 60 years later, we know that we cannot relent, we cannot yield, and as President I will never compromise when it comes to Israel’s security.
Not when there are still voices that deny the Holocaust. Not when there are terrorist groups and political leaders committed to Israel’s destruction. Not when there are maps across the Middle East that don’t even acknowledge Israel’s existence, and government-funded textbooks filled with hatred toward Jews. Not when there are rockets raining down on Sderot, and Israeli children have to take a deep breath and summon uncommon courage every time they board a bus or walk to school.
I have long understood Israel’s quest for peace and need for security. But never more so than during my travels there two years ago. Flying in an IDF helicopter, I saw a narrow and beautiful strip of land nestled against the Mediterranean. On the ground, I met a family who saw their house destroyed by a Katyusha Rocket. I spoke to Israeli troops who faced daily threats as they maintained security near the blue line. I talked to people who wanted nothing more simple, or elusive, than a secure future for their children.
I have been proud to be a part of a strong, bi-partisan consensus that has stood by Israel in the face of all threats. That is a commitment that both John McCain and I share, because support for Israel in this country goes beyond party. But part of our commitment must be speaking up when Israel’s security is at risk, and I don’t think any of us can be satisfied that America’s recent foreign policy has made Israel more secure.
Hamas now controls Gaza. Hizbollah has tightened its grip on southern Lebanon, and is flexing its muscles in Beirut. Because of the war in Iraq, Iran - which always posed a greater threat to Israel than Iraq - is emboldened, and poses the greatest strategic challenge to the United States and Israel in the Middle East in a generation. Iraq is unstable, and al Qaeda has stepped up its recruitment. Israel’s quest for peace with its neighbors has stalled, despite the heavy burdens borne by the Israeli people. And America is more isolated in the region, reducing our strength and jeopardizing Israel’s safety.
The question is how to move forward. There are those who would continue and intensify this failed status quo, ignoring eight years of accumulated evidence that our foreign policy is dangerously flawed. And then there are those who would lay all of the problems of the Middle East at the doorstep of Israel and its supporters, as if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the root of all trouble in the region. These voices blame the Middle East’s only democracy for the region’s extremism. They offer the false promise that abandoning a stalwart ally is somehow the path to strength. It is not, it never has been, and it never will be.
Our alliance is based on shared interests and shared values. Those who threaten Israel threaten us. Israel has always faced these threats on the front lines. And I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security.
That starts with ensuring Israel’s qualitative military advantage. I will ensure that Israel can defend itself from any threat - from Gaza to Tehran. Defense cooperation between the United States and Israel is a model of success, and must be deepened. As President, I will implement a Memorandum of Understanding that provides $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade - investments to Israel’s security that will not be tied to any other nation. First, we must approve the foreign aid request for 2009. Going forward, we can enhance our cooperation on missile defense. We should export military equipment to our ally Israel under the same guidelines as NATO. And I will always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself in the United Nations and around the world.
Across the political spectrum, Israelis understand that real security can only come through lasting peace. And that is why we - as friends of Israel - must resolve to do all we can to help Israel and its neighbors to achieve it. Because a secure, lasting peace is in Israel’s national interest. It is in America’s national interest. And it is in the interest of the Palestinian people and the Arab world. As President, I will work to help Israel achieve the goal of two states, a Jewish state of Israel and a Palestinian state, living side by side in peace and security. And I won’t wait until the waning days of my presidency. I will take an active role, and make a personal commitment to do all I can to advance the cause of peace from the start of my Administration.
The long road to peace requires Palestinian partners committed to making the journey. We must isolate Hamas unless and until they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel’s right to exist, and abide by past agreements. There is no room at the negotiating table for terrorist organizations. That is why I opposed holding elections in 2006 with Hamas on the ballot. The Israelis and the Palestinian Authority warned us at the time against holding these elections. But this Administration pressed ahead, and the result is a Gaza controlled by Hamas, with rockets raining down on Israel.
The Palestinian people must understand that progress will not come through the false prophets of extremism or the corrupt use of foreign aid. The United States and the international community must stand by Palestinians who are committed to cracking down on terror and carrying the burden of peacemaking. I will strongly urge Arab governments to take steps to normalize relations with Israel, and to fulfill their responsibility to pressure extremists and provide real support for President Abbas and Prime Minister Fayyad. Egypt must cut off the smuggling of weapons into Gaza. Israel can also advance the cause of peace by taking appropriate steps - consistent with its security - to ease the freedom of movement for Palestinians, improve economic conditions in the West Bank, and to refrain from building new settlements - as it agreed to with the Bush Administration at Annapolis.
Let me be clear. Israel’s security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable. The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper - but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel’s identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.
I have no illusions that this will be easy. It will require difficult decisions on both sides. But Israel is strong enough to achieve peace, if it has partners who are committed to the goal. Most Israelis and Palestinians want peace, and we must strengthen their hand. The United States must be a strong and consistent partner in this process - not to force concessions, but to help committed partners avoid stalemate and the kind of vacuums that are filled by violence. That’s what I commit to do as President of the United States.
The threats to Israel start close to home, but they don’t end there. Syria continues its support for terror and meddling in Lebanon. And Syria has taken dangerous steps in pursuit of weapons of mass destruction, which is why Israeli action was justified to end that threat.
I also believe that the United States has a responsibility to support Israel’s efforts to renew peace talks with the Syrians. We must never force Israel to the negotiating table, but neither should we ever block negotiations when Israel’s leaders decide that they may serve Israeli interests. As President, I will do whatever I can to help Israel succeed in these negotiations. And success will require the full enforcement of Security Council Resolution 1701 in Lebanon, and a stop to Syria’s support for terror. It is time for this reckless behavior to come to an end.
There is no greater threat to Israel - or to the peace and stability of the region - than Iran. Now this audience is made up of both Republicans and Democrats, and the enemies of Israel should have no doubt that, regardless of party, Americans stand shoulder-to-shoulder in our commitment to Israel’s security. So while I don’t want to strike too partisan a note here today, I do want to address some willful mischaracterizations of my positions.
The Iranian regime supports violent extremists and challenges us across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race, and raise the prospect of a transfer of nuclear know-how to terrorists. Its President denies the Holocaust and threatens to wipe Israel off the map. The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.
But just as we are clear-eyed about the threat, we must be clear about the failure of today’s policy. We knew, in 2002, that Iran supported terrorism. We knew Iran had an illicit nuclear program. We knew Iran posed a grave threat to Israel. But instead of pursuing a strategy to address this threat, we ignored it and instead invaded and occupied Iraq. When I opposed the war, I warned that it would fan the flames of extremism in the Middle East. That is precisely what happened in Iran - the hardliners tightened their grip, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was elected President in 2005. And the United States and Israel are less secure.
I respect Senator McCain, and look forward to a substantive debate with him these next five months. But on this point, we have differed, and we will differ. Senator McCain refuses to understand or acknowledge the failure of the policy that he would continue. He criticizes my willingness to use strong diplomacy, but offers only an alternate reality - one where the war in Iraq has somehow put Iran on its heels. The truth is the opposite. Iran has strengthened its position. Iran is now enriching uranium, and has reportedly stockpiled 150 kilos of low enriched uranium. Its support for terrorism and threats toward Israel have increased. Those are the facts, they cannot be denied, and I refuse to continue a policy that has made the United States and Israel less secure.
Senator McCain offers a false choice: stay the course in Iraq, or cede the region to Iran. I reject this logic because there is a better way. Keeping all of our troops tied down indefinitely in Iraq is not the way to weaken Iran - it is precisely what has strengthened it. It is a policy for staying, not a plan for victory. I have proposed a responsible, phased redeployment of our troops from Iraq. We will get out as carefully as we were careless getting in. We will finally pressure Iraq’s leaders to take meaningful responsibility for their own future.
We will also use all elements of American power to pressure Iran. I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. That starts with aggressive, principled diplomacy without self-defeating preconditions, but with a clear-eyed understanding of our interests. We have no time to waste. We cannot unconditionally rule out an approach that could prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. We have tried limited, piecemeal talks while we outsource the sustained work to our European allies. It is time for the United States to lead.
There will be careful preparation. We will open up lines of communication, build an agenda, coordinate closely with our allies, and evaluate the potential for progress. Contrary to the claims of some, I have no interest in sitting down with men like Ahmadinejad just for the sake of talking. But as President of the United States, I would be willing to lead tough and principled diplomacy with the appropriate Iranian leader at a time and place of my choosing - if, and only if - it can advance the interests of the United States.
Only recently have some come to think that diplomacy by definition cannot be tough. They forget the example of Truman, and Kennedy and Reagan. These Presidents understood that diplomacy backed by real leverage was a fundamental tool of statecraft. And it is time to once again make American diplomacy a tool to succeed, not just a means of containing failure. We will pursue this diplomacy with no illusions about the Iranian regime. Instead, we will present a clear choice. If you abandon your dangerous nuclear program, support for terror, and threats to Israel, there will be meaningful incentives - including the lifting of sanctions, and political and economic integration with the international community. If you refuse, we will ratchet up the pressure.
My presidency will strengthen our hand as we restore our standing. Our willingness to pursue diplomacy will make it easier to mobilize others to join our cause. If Iran fails to change course when presented with this choice by the United States, it will be clear - to the people of Iran, and to the world - that the Iranian regime is the author of its own isolation. That will strengthen our hand with Russia and China as we insist on stronger sanctions in the Security Council. And we should work with Europe, Japan and the Gulf states to find every avenue outside the UN to isolate the Iranian regime - from cutting off loan guarantees and expanding financial sanctions, to banning the export of refined petroleum to Iran, to boycotting firms associated with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which has rightly been labeled a terrorist organization.
I was interested to see Senator McCain propose divestment as a source of leverage - not the bigoted divestment that has sought to punish Israeli scientists and academics, but divestment targeted at the Iranian regime. It’s a good concept, but not a new one. I introduced legislation over a year ago that would encourage states and the private sector to divest from companies that do business in Iran. This bill has bipartisan support, but for reasons that I’ll let him explain, Senator McCain never signed on. Meanwhile, an anonymous Senator is blocking the bill. It is time to pass this into law so that we can tighten the squeeze on the Iranian regime. We should also pursue other unilateral sanctions that target Iranian banks and assets.
And we must free ourselves from the tyranny of oil. The price of a barrel of oil is one of the most dangerous weapons in the world. Petrodollars pay for weapons that kill American troops and Israeli citizens. And the Bush Administration’s policies have driven up the price of oil, while its energy policy has made us more dependent on foreign oil and gas. It’s time for the United States to take real steps to end our addiction to oil. And we can join with Israel, building on last year’s US-Israel Energy Cooperation Act, to deepen our partnership in developing alternative sources of energy by increasing scientific collaboration and joint research and development. The surest way to increase our leverage in the long term is to stop bankrolling the Iranian regime.
Finally, let there be no doubt: I will always keep the threat of military action on the table to defend our security and our ally Israel. Sometimes there are no alternatives to confrontation. But that only makes diplomacy more important. If we must use military force, we are more likely to succeed, and will have far greater support at home and abroad, if we have exhausted our diplomatic efforts.
That is the change we need in our foreign policy. Change that restores American power and influence. Change accompanied by a pledge that I will make known to allies and adversaries alike: that America maintains an unwavering friendship with Israel, and an unshakeable commitment to its security.
As members of AIPAC, you have helped advance this bipartisan consensus to support and defend our ally Israel. And I am sure that today on Capitol Hill you will be meeting with members of Congress and spreading the word. But we are here because of more than policy. We are here because the values we hold dear are deeply embedded in the story of Israel.
Just look at what Israel has accomplished in 60 years. From decades of struggle and the terrible wake of the Holocaust, a nation was forged to provide a home for Jews from all corners of the world - from Syria to Ethiopia to the Soviet Union. In the face of constant threats, Israel has triumphed. In the face of constant peril, Israel has prospered. In a state of constant insecurity, Israel has maintained a vibrant and open discourse, and a resilient commitment to the rule of law.
As any Israeli will tell you, Israel is not a perfect place, but like the United States it sets an example for all when it seeks a more perfect future. These same qualities can be found among American Jews. It is why so many Jewish Americans have stood by Israel, while advancing the American story. Because there is a commitment embedded in the Jewish faith and tradition: to freedom and fairness; to social justice and equal opportunity. To tikkun olam - the obligation to repair this world.
I will never forget that I would not be standing here today if it weren’t for that commitment. In the great social movements in our country’s history, Jewish and African Americans have stood shoulder to shoulder. They took buses down south together. They marched together. They bled together. And Jewish Americans like Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner were willing to die alongside a black man - James Chaney - on behalf of freedom and equality.
Their legacy is our inheritance. We must not allow the relationship between Jews and African Americans to suffer. This is a bond that must be strengthened. Together, we can rededicate ourselves to end prejudice and combat hatred in all of its forms. Together, we can renew our commitment to justice. Together, we can join our voices together, and in doing so make even the mightiest of walls fall down.
That work must include our shared commitment to Israel. You and I know that we must do more than stand still. Now is the time to be vigilant in facing down every foe, just as we move forward in seeking a future of peace for the children of Israel, and for all children. Now is the time to stand by Israel as it writes the next chapter in its extraordinary journey. Now is the time to join together in the work of repairing this world.

As usual Obama’s speech was outstanding! It is a comfort to know that he stands with Israel and how important it is for United States interest to have an ally in the Middle East. Ruth
ruth f goodman | Jun 4, 2008 | Reply
A scriptwriter could have written the above words, and any good public speaker, which Obama is, could have delivered it. Actions speak far more loudly than any words that Barack Obama might say.
(1) Obama solicited and accepted the endorsement of MoveOn.org, which published not only pro-Palestinian material in an official bulletin, but also a deliberate insult to General David Petraeus. The instant someone spits, whether literally or figuratively, on an officer’s or enlisted person’s uniform, that’s three strikes right there–Obama is out.
(2) My.Barackobama.org welcomed anti-Israel material from Tony Wicher until I forced its removal by exposing it at IsraPundit and elsewhere. Wicher used the phrase “Zionist thought police” while quoting Desmond Tutu’s “Jewish Lobby.”
(3) Barack Obama praised and endorsed Al Sharpton, the racist and anti-Semite who orchestrated the hate event at Freddy’s Fashion Mart. Also Google on Sharpton and “Yankel Rosenbaum.”
(4) The official bulletin of Obama’s church included a guest piece from a Hamas terrorist, a blood libel that accused Israel of making an “ethnic bomb” to kill Negroes and Arabs, and “state” of Israel, as in “so-called state of Israel.” The latter bore Jeremiah Wright’s signature.
Bill Levinson | Jun 4, 2008 | Reply
Sorry, that should be my.barackobama.com.
Bill Levinson | Jun 4, 2008 | Reply
Bill, are you going to post the same disproven nonsense, falsifications and slanders on every single post on this website in which Barack Obama’s name is mentioned? Doesn’t it ever get old? How do you pay you rent considering the fact that you spend your entire day doing this all around the web? Are you an RJC operative or something?
Frank N. Bean | Jun 4, 2008 | Reply
I heard the speech and I’m somewhat impressed.
To trust him is an other matter. How could he be a member of that church whose pastor and visiting pastors were so openly racist against whites and against the jews in particular.
Talk is cheap, (with the exception of the fee for the speechwriter)and a good speaker can deliver words that have little meaning if the speaker doesn’t belive in them.
His whole life is a mystery and an enigma that yet to be deciphered. Hopefully not the expense of the citizens of Israel who are suffering daily form the terrorist arabs.
Klara | Jun 4, 2008 | Reply
It is disgusting to see Obama, who knows better, pandering to the zionist mafia in this way. Israel is the predator, as Obama and most other US politicians know. But the also know they can never get elected to office if they don’t suck up to AIPAC.
So once again AIPAC wins, and the Palestinians as always will pay the price.
America will fall, and so will Israel. Empires always do.
Free Free Palestine! Long live Palestine!
mary hughes | Jun 4, 2008 | Reply
look folks, no one and nothing is perfect. that includes me, you, obama, and that includes israel.
in fact, my cousin (who is israeli) tells me that approval for some israeli aggression (and face it, there is war going on, so there is aggression)is as low as bush’s approval in the us. in other words, lots of israelis are upset about what their government is doing re palestine, just as lots of americans are upset about what our government is doing re iraq.
speaking of not always agreeing with what our authoritative figures do or say, isn’t it time we drop the talk about what members of obama’s former church (not obama himself) said?
emma | Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
Frank,
Do you deny that:
(1) Obama solicited and accepted MoveOn’s endorsement?
(2) Tony Wicher posted the indicated material at my.barackobama.com, where it remained until an Internet-wide scandal forced its removal?
(3) Obama praised and endorsed Al Sharpton last April?
(4) A TUCC bulletin contained an opinion piece from a Hamas terrorist? (And I can add another that contained a blood libel of Israel.)
As for the Jewschool interview with Noah Winer, the statement “We discovered and removed the posts [hate speech] before the scandal broke” is an outright falsehood, because my collection of the hate speech–and I needed three Web pages to host it–was harvested after Eli Pariser said it had been removed. Noah Winer’s name is also on an official MoveOn bulletin that cites the Electronic Intifada as an information source.
Bill Levinson | Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
I cant say I am terribly surprised by O-Tom-a’s fealty before the agents of the Zio-Reich. Such is the nature of the invisible plantation that is Washington. Where politicians have to put the interests of Zionist capitalists before that of the American people. Its a disgusting sight no less and it will be devastating in the long run for both the US and in particular American Jewry, who undoubtedly will be scape-goated for the behavior of the Zionist capitalists that claim to be their leaders.
Salviati | Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
i mean look at the guy, supposed to be the next president of the mighty power of the world. What is he trying to prove standing in front of a nation that is no doubt an illegitimate brainless child of the west and the USA. Does not it look shameful, the way the-president-to-be is trying to prove himself innocent in a front of a nation whose existence is a shame for the civilized world. ‘ trying to be faithful to the king more than the king Himself’
i wish i could see his wagging tail if that dice had not been there..
Faisal Malik | Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
Salviati’s and mary hughes’ comments would have been ideally suited for MoveOn.org’s disgraced Action Forum, which welcomed comments about Zionist capitalists and Israel’s “oppression” of the Palestinians. Obama solicited and accepted MoveOn.org’s endorsement.
Bill Levinson | Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
Do you deny that:
(1) Obama solicited and accepted MoveOn’s endorsement?
I do not deny it. What I deny is that MoveOn.org is a haven for anti-Semites. MoveOn is an organization staffed primarily by Jews and which has an exceptionally large Jewish contingent. If I held every online forum responsible for everything nasty any of its users said about Jews or Israel, no webmaster anywhere would be safe from allegations of antisemitism.
(2) Tony Wicher posted the indicated material at my.barackobama.com, where it remained until an Internet-wide scandal forced its removal?
I constantly encounter blog entries written by anti-Zionist conspiracy theorists posted to right-wing sites that permit public sign-up and posting.
You seem to misunderstand basic ideas about User Generated Content and the responsibility of site hosts for that content. Like it says on the bottom of every blog post on my.barackobama.com: “Content on blogs in My.BarackObama represents the opinions of community members and in no way should be interpreted as endorsed or approved by the campaign.”
The reason for this is that it would be damn near impossible to monitor every single posting added to a website that invites an unlimited number of contributors and contributions. In fact, I was reading a post somewhere yesterday on some web marketing blog about how 9 out of 10 sites that host User Generated Content don’t review that content.
Which, of course, is problematic. Especially when shady people start playing games. In the case of MoveOn, it is believed that right-wingers like yourself created accounts on MoveOn and filled the site with hateful messages just so that you could uphold it later that MoveOn was somehow anti-Semitic.
But in an age where User Generated Content is king, can you truly fault MoveOn or Obama for taking such risks knowing that their online organizing strategies require embracing it? It’s a nasty Catch 22 and one any GOP candidate could fall prey to were those on the Left willing to play as dirty as those on the Right.
(3) Obama praised and endorsed Al Sharpton last April?
Even Dov Hikind says Al Sharpton isn’t an anti-Semite.
And Al Sharpton, a former Democratic candidate for President of the United States, is still a beloved Black leader in this country, whether or not Jews are still angry over the two instances they can point to over the course of his 30 years of activism that they found themselves on the wrong side of his wrath.
If Jews want Blacks and Black leaders to pay them more respect, they should do more to keep Jewish building owners from harassing their tenants in poor neighborhoods.
(4) A TUCC bulletin contained an opinion piece from a Hamas terrorist? (And I can add another that contained a blood libel of Israel.)
Isn’t it true that you moderate an online forum called Jews Against Obama that’s hosted by the Jewish Defense League, which is considered a terrorist organization by the US Department of State and the US Department of Justice?
Isn’t it true that the leadership of that organization was convicted and jailed for numerous bomb plots against Arab American targets, including public officials?
Isn’t it true that JDL operatives were convicted for targeting Russian dignitaries in the U.S. as well?
People who live in glass houses — ie., people who maintain real relationships with actual terrorists, and not ones who just republish op-eds from the LA Times — shouldn’t throw stones.
As for the Jewschool interview with Noah Winer, the statement “We discovered and removed the posts [hate speech] before the scandal broke” is an outright falsehood, because my collection of the hate speech–and I needed three Web pages to host it–was harvested after Eli Pariser said it had been removed. Noah Winer’s name is also on an official MoveOn bulletin that cites the Electronic Intifada as an information source.
Like I said, if I held every webmaster accountable for every comment left on their website, everyone would be an anti-Semite.
And Electronic Intifada, like it or not, is a very well respected source of information in the anti-occupation community. EI offers writings from some of the most respected Palestinian activists and academics in the field. Just because Winer linked to one of their articles in the context of a political statement against the occupation does not mean he nor MoveOn are anti-Semitic.
Frank N. Bean | Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
obama is a friend of israel and so is
this man below
http://www.americanradicalthefilm.com
shamir | Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
Frank wrote, “If I held every online forum responsible for everything nasty any of its users said about Jews or Israel, no webmaster anywhere would be safe from allegations of antisemitism.”
Had the Action Forum been an Internet newsgroup over which there is no control whatsoever (except for action against overt spammers and the like), your argument, which is MoveOn’s official argument, would be right. The instant MoveOn’s moderators decided what comments would be deleted, their exercise of editorial control made them responsible for the material they allowed to stand. “Exercise of editorial control” is the key phrase.
Furthermore, Eli Pariser claims that MoveOn “discovered” the hate speech in August 2006, except a friend sent me a copy of an E-mail he had sent to MoveOn more than a year and a half previously in which he complained about it. Not only that, the Action Forum FAQ page says the moderators read each posting twice (to get ideas for MoveOn’s ideas). Right; they read each item twice, and just happened to miss phrases like “Jews control all the media” and even worse.
Finally, if MoveOn was innocent as you say, why did it take its prized Action Forum offline and never bring it back? That is not the behavior of an aggrieved or injured party, but of someone who is trying to hide something shameful.
“Isn’t it true that you moderate an online forum called Jews Against Obama that’s hosted by the Jewish Defense League,”
I do not moderate or control this site, and I never have.
“which is considered a terrorist organization by the US Department of State and the US Department of Justice?”
I doubt it, because it would probably be illegal to host a foreign terrorist organization’s Web site on a U.S. server, or for PayPal to process donations to it. Since you mention terrorism, though:
“whether or not Jews are still angry over the two instances they can point to over the course of [Sharpton's] 30 years of activism that they found themselves on the wrong side of his wrath.”
Two instances in which Jews or their employees were killed in fatal hate crimes. I suspect that Yankel Rosenbaum felt terrorized by the Sharptonite mob that was screaming “Kill the Jew,” which it did.
“If Jews want Blacks and Black leaders to pay them more respect, they should do more to keep Jewish building owners from harassing their tenants in poor neighborhoods.”
I see; you buy Sharpton’s party line. Even if the above were true, which it is not, it might have been be appropriate to yell “Landlord unfair!” The instant they threw in “bloodsucking Jew,” as Sharpton’s people did, or “white interloper” as Sharpton did, it was no longer about the landlord’s alleged conduct but about his race and religious identity. This makes Sharpton a racist and an anti-Semite, and his National Action Network (which Obama praised in the highest terms) a hate organization.
Bill Levinson | Jun 6, 2008 | Reply
This line is classic:
“My.Barackobama.org welcomed anti-Israel material from Tony Wicher until I forced its removal by exposing it at IsraPundit and elsewhere. Wicher used the phrase “Zionist thought police” while quoting Desmond Tutu’s “Jewish Lobby.”
Bubba, you just showed that there are “Zionist Thought Police” by forcing the removal of someone’s thoughts that you didn’t like.
You must be a big fan of Joe Boy LIE berman’s and Jane Harman’s “Thought Crime Act” that is now sitting in that Senator from Israel’s committe as S.1959.
Once that piece of oppression gets passed, people like you should have a field day, goose-stepping around the country and helping toss people who think differently than you, you’ll get to snitch on those poor souls and watch them wither in prison.
Hitler’s Brownshirts would be proud.
Greg Bacon | Jun 6, 2008 | Reply
The instant MoveOn’s moderators decided what comments would be deleted, their exercise of editorial control made them responsible for the material they allowed to stand. “Exercise of editorial control” is the key phrase.
You demand they delete the anti-Semitic comments and then when they finally do get in there to clean it up, you say they now are responsible for everything everyone has written on the site?!
Talk about shifting goalposts!
Finally, if MoveOn was innocent as you say, why did it take its prized Action Forum offline and never bring it back?
Maybe because, as I’ve tried to indicate, moderating an online forum with tens of thousands of users is an immense undertaking that requires several full time employees working around the clock.
Maybe MoveOn would rather spend its money on defeating the GOP (which is destroying our country and our planet) than policing the rantings of idiots on the Internet (who seem to be the people who dominate online forums, as your ongoing inanity evidences).
Why spend $100,000 on three full time staffers to moderate an online forum when they can give that to money to Congressional candidates who can give the Dems an even stronger majority in the House?
I do not moderate or control this site, and I never have.
Oh, I’m sorry, you’re just their top contributor.
I doubt it, because it would probably be illegal to host a foreign terrorist organization’s Web site on a U.S. server, or for PayPal to process donations to it.
Here is the US State Department’s list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations. See number 20.
Here is a report on a 2006 court decision upholding the designation.
And here is an article in the NY Times about Kahane Chai being a terrorist group and how they’ve been forced to take their website down.
If any of the donations accepted on the JDL site reach Kahanist groups in Israel, it is in fact illegal.
Two instances in which Jews or their employees were killed in fatal hate crimes. I suspect that Yankel Rosenbaum felt terrorized by the Sharptonite mob that was screaming “Kill the Jew,” which it did.
First of all, the Yankel Rosenbaum incident was effed up and out of control before Sharpton even showed up.
Second of all, the person who burned down that store was a crazy drunk who wasn’t even connected to Sharpton’s group.
I’ll concede that Sharpton failed in not standing up for racial tolerance and instead getting the Black community more riled up.
But that doesn’t mean he’s personally responsible for either of those deaths.
At least, not any more than Meir Kahane is responsible for the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin or the Tomb of the Patriarchs massacre.
Frank N. Bean | Jun 6, 2008 | Reply
Frank N. Bean wrote,
“You demand they delete the anti-Semitic comments and then when they finally do get in there to clean it up, you say they now are responsible for everything everyone has written on the site?!”
They never deleted the anti-Semitic comments, except for the infamous “Jew Lieberman” slur and perhaps one or two others. My collection (site link) is but one page of three on which I have posted the hate speech for all to see. Except where otherwise noted, I harvested it AFTER Eli Pariser assured everyone that it had been removed.
“First of all, the Yankel Rosenbaum incident was effed up and out of control before Sharpton even showed up.”
Sharpton’s remarks about [Jewish] diamond merchants did not help.
“Second of all, the person who burned down that store was a crazy drunk who wasn’t even connected to Sharpton’s group.”
No, he just listened to Sharpton’s group and Sharpton screaming about “bloodsucking Jews” and “white interlopers,” along with a threat from one of Sharpton’s people to burn the store. Apparently he thought that would be a good idea, and he acted on it.
“But that doesn’t mean he’s personally responsible for either of those deaths.”
His hate speech admittedly did not rise to the level of incitement to riot, but it was hate speech nonetheless.
“At least, not any more than Meir Kahane is responsible for the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin or the Tomb of the Patriarchs massacre.”
Are you saying that Sharpton is a Black version of Meir Kahane? I was thinking more along the lines of a Black David Duke or Tom Metzger, but I can go with a Black version of Kahane.
Bill Levinson | Jun 6, 2008 | Reply
Register AIPAC and all its friends as foreign agents; cut off aid; work for nuke free middle east including Israel; invade and grab all Israel’s WMD this time. So it nukes a few American and Russian cities, better than the Samson Option where they nuke russia and russia sends 5000 nukes back to US and Europe.
J.C. | Jun 7, 2008 | Reply
Obama, he speaks like Hitler
I have this recurring nightmare of Farrakhan or Wright spending the night at the White House in the Lincoln bedroom. Or Barack Hussein Obama having a luncheon on the lawns with Hamas representatives, Ayers, Meeks and company. Lord help us. This life-long will also be pulling the lever for John McCain, a man who is actually proud of his country.
We are judged by the company we keep.
I have a very good picture of Barack Hussein Obama’s kind of change he wants to make. I can’t beleive that the Democrat party could want this Obama instead of Hillary. I would never vote for Obama not because he’s black but because of all the anti-American friends he has.
Once again the DNC has come up with an inadequate candidate, Barack Hussein Obama is a empty suit and I don’t believe a word he says.
I am definately voting for John McCain. I like him alot so it is an easy move. He loves this country and went through hell during the POW days.
I am one of them Sc.D. a son of holocaust survivor who witnessed results of 1930’s appeasement, I saw what my mother had to live through when she was in the concentration camps. She saw what is like when you cannot defend yourself from the Nazi tyranny, she saw her family burn in the ovens of Auschwitz and Birkenau, she witnessed the les affaires of the comatose Europeans Jewry while their fellow Jews were being shipped to their death camps, and the silence of the conciliators, she bore the numbers of her arms so we will never relent in our pursuit of freedom. Today I see in Barack Obama, he speaks like Hitler and hardly set down and argue like a human being, he bring an old memories that invokes the fears of Hitler days, he promised everything under the sun and that worries me the most. Hitler promised the German people everything and only destruction came about.
Shalom,
— Leland Milton Goldblatt, Ph.D. ®
Distinguished Professor
http://drgoldblatt.blogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/miltongoldblatt
Leland Milton Goldblatt | Jun 7, 2008 | Reply
“…to boycotting firms associated with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which has rightly been labeled a terrorist organization.” Kind of funny how this issue is a Not Voting on his record.
Tyler | Jun 7, 2008 | Reply
Bill,
Moveon.org is progressive, unlike you. Anyone interested in 4 more (endless) years of war should go with McCain. But let’s be honest, are you really excited by his relationship with christian conservos?
so Bill, stop posting the same thing twenty times, its boring.
JG | Jun 11, 2008 | Reply
JG wrote, “Moveon.org is progressive, unlike you. Anyone interested in 4 more (endless) years of war should go with McCain.”
If you define “progressive” as spitting on Armed Forces officers (Petraeus) for following the lawful orders of their civilian superiors (Congress, President) while fomenting hatred of Jews and Catholics, then I am proud to be a “regressive.” Meanwhile, it was Obama who talked about invading Pakistan, a nuclear-armed nation that is nominally friendly to the U.S.
McCain has been in a war, and he got hurt in a war. His son Jimmy is an enlisted Marine who is serving in Iraq (at the same age at which Obama was doing pot and maybe cocaine, depending on the meaning of “blow,” which he used in “Dreams From My Father”). I think McCain’s judgment about when and when not to fight is better than Obama’s.
Bill Levinson | Jun 11, 2008 | Reply